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Ares I-Y launch being canceled?

Postby ittiz » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:08 am

Thought the press release below was interesting. Perhaps NASA is trying to push up the first manned Ares I flight to keep it from being canceled altogether?

http://wiki.nasa.gov/cm/blog/Constellat ... 62132.html
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Re: Ares I-Y launch being canceled?

Postby stevekk » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:57 am

Cancelling this flight makes perfect sense. Why test a launch configuration that doesn't closely match the final configuration, especially that "relatively" close to the end of the project. They obviously need some sort of test flight in 2012, but one that looks a lot closer to the final Ares - 1 / Orion stack.
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Re: Ares I-Y launch being canceled?

Postby tanstaafl76 » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:50 pm

stevekk wrote:Cancelling this flight makes perfect sense. Why test a launch configuration that doesn't closely match the final configuration


That's kind of what I was wondering about Ares 1-X....

2012 before the next test flight? It really takes 3 years to put together another rocket? I know rockets aren't cheap and their funding is restricted but geez...
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Re: Ares I-Y launch being canceled?

Postby job1207 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:43 am

"The current Constellation manifest shows the Ares I-Y flight test scheduled in March 2014, just a year out from the proposed first crewed flight Orion 2, planned in 2015."

The flight that was canceled is noted ABOVE. The date WAS supposed to be 2014.

See the link you provided, at the bottom.
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Re: Ares I-Y launch being canceled?

Postby thermionic » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:24 pm

So Ares 1-Y was originally scheduled for 2012, posponed to 2014, and now cancelled.
Orion with crew is still scheduled for 2015? Didn't the Augustine report say 2017 was earliest possible?
And the article mentions launching something different in 2012 or 2013?

Did I get that right? or left? /jd
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Re: Ares I-Y launch being canceled?

Postby hipar » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:58 am

The commission analyzed the schedule as being financially driven. Sometimes, it's necessary to assume risk and restructure a developmental program in an attempt continue with less funds. Sometimes, that works out.
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Re: Ares I-Y launch being canceled?

Postby steve82 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:35 am

Ares 1-Y has been pretty much just a placeholder in the schedule for some time now. Getting rid of it will allow Orion-1 to get moved up a little, with an earlier orbital test of the full Orion vehicle. Orion-2 would likely be kept in the schedule as a manned option, but will probably fly unmanned to get a little more confidence in the integrated stack before they put crew onboard.
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Re: Ares I-Y launch being canceled?

Postby SpaceTas » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:29 pm

Looks like Ares 1-Y is gone, maybe Ares 1 as a whole is next.

Here is a link to the Aviation Week Space technology article
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/Flighttest110409.xml&headline=NASA%20Drops%20Ares%20I-Y%20Flight-test&channel=space

Main reason for not doing Ares 1-Y is that the J2-x engines won't be ready. Second the 1-Y configuration won't have the 5 segment 1st stage and the abort test can be moved to earlier Ares 1-X prime test (2012).
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